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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER I d like to welcome all of you to Massillon City Council for Monday, October 16, 2006. We have in attendance with us this evening: Mayor Cicchinelli, Auditor Hamit, Law Director Stergios and Safety Service Director Loudiana. On the wall to your left are agendas for anyone who wishes to follow the meeting. Also under item #5 on the agenda is where the public can speak on any item that appears on the agenda and then under item #17 is where the public can speak on any item that does not appear on the agenda. I d also like to remind anyone with a cell phone please turn it off or turn it very far down. We also have three young men here from Tuslaw High School for a government class and we appreciate you fellows being with us. 1. ROLL CALL Roll call for the evening found the following Council Members present: Tim Bryan, Kathy Catazaro-Perry, Jayne Ferrero, Chuck Maier, Ron Mang, Paul Manson, Dave McCune, Donnie Peters, and Tony Townsend. Thus giving a roll call vote of 9 present. 2. INVOCATION COUNCILMAN PETERS gave the invocation for the evening. 3. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE COUNCILMAN PETERS Chairman of the Streets and Highways Committee led those in attendance in the Pledge of Allegiance. 4. READING OF THE JOURNAL COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER Madame Clerk are the minutes of the previous meeting transcribed and open for public viewing (THEY ARE) Are there any additions or corrections to the minutes. If not the minutes stand approved as written. 5. REMARKS OF DELEGATIONS AND CITIZENS TO MATTERS ON THE AGENDA MARK LEE – I work with Menard, Inc. we’re a family home improvement retailer based out of Wisconsin. I’m here tonight in support of and to answer any questions about the rezoning that was required for the property that we have under contract at the southwest corner of highways 30 and 62. Much of this property was already zoned for the commercial use. Whereas there has been a lot of development north of highway 30 there hasn’t yet been a lot south. We think this is a appropriate spot for a shopping center and a Menard store and are very excited about the possibility of building there. With that I guess I would be happy to answer any questions anyone had if there were any. COUNCILMAN MANG – Yes, Mark is here dealing with Ordinance No. 120, Ordinance No. 120 is actually had three readings and we tabled it for tonight so that Mark could be here to explain to us what the company would like to do. Mark, I know you have a drawing there a detailed sketch I wonder if you would like to hold that sketch up and kind of show us where the building is planned. I think probably can do it from there so all the council members can see it from there. So if you would… MARK LEE – What is currently rezoned as much of the frontage along U.S. Highway 62 and because of the depth of our building which is located here in the center of the development because of our requirements and to enable additional commercial development in front of us in what we refer to as our out lots we had requested this rezoning. There is a strip along the back that is not rezoned that will be hopefully. We don’t yet, we haven’t yet marketed the property we haven’t yet of course bought the property. But so I don’t yet know who our co-tenants, co-anchors might be. But I, they’re going to be a lot of them most of them probably of a retail nature. But there’s probably going to be some improvements likely happening as far as on Highway 62 with the proposed light and probably some amount on Warmington as well and we haven’t yet begun those offsite planned yet as far as having them engineered. But we have completed a traffic study and but I anticipate there will be some investment by us in those infrastructure… COUNCILMAN MANG – The area that you wish to have rezoned is the area that you’re looking for out lots is that correct? The business that your businesses looking to be developed behind that? MARK LEE – Right, it’s because of the size of our building and pushing it back to allow for out lots that as we as you move westerly you come to a portion of the site that is not currently rezoned. We’re also picking up a sliver from the adjacent property owner that runs along the U.S. Highway 30 right-of-way. I don’t believe that that’s all been rezoned. So in a sense kind of like housekeeping to be able to make sure that every part of the proposed shopping center is rezoned because the vast majority already is. COUNCILMAN MANG – But the portion that we are looking at here tonight according to the description I have it’s a property it’s 800 foot wide and 310 foot deep. That is the portion that we’re dealing with here tonight that you would wish to go from I-2 general business to B-3 general business. Is that correct? MARK LEE – Yes, sir. Some of the property that is described in there is currently zoned. What we did was we took the legal description as I recall for the entire center and asked for the rezoning application on that to go from a mixture of zoning to all one commercial zoning. But as I mentioned though most of it is zoned today, but not all of it to, not of all that was necessary to be allowed for the development. COUNCILMAN MANG – But the majority of the property is already rezoned B-3 the portion that we’re talking about here tonight is Out Lot 581; Out Lot 580 has already been rezoned it was rezoned back in 2003 to general business. So the portion that we’re looking at tonight is Out Lot 581 which presently has a I-2 general industrial and you’re looking to want it to be B-3 general business in compliance with Out Lot 580. MARK LEE – Yes, sir. COUNCILWOMAN FERRERO I may have misunderstood you Mr. Lee, but did you say Route 62; it’s really Route 21 you’re talking about right? MARK LEE – I believe that it is named both; they run together there for that section. COUNCILWOMAN FERRERO It does, I did not know that. MARK LEE – But I’m outside of the community so I might be wrong. COUNCILMAN MANG – I think what he’s saying is that 62 runs along with Route 21 at that point. Other words their development will be on the west side of 21 which actually will be south of Route 62. Okay? When you come down 62 and you run into 21, 62 is in traveling with Route 21 south. COUNCILWOMAN FERRERO I see I did not know that. I thought that was all Route 21 along there. COUNCILMAN MAIER – Yes, if this were to be rezoned how soon would you plan on doing any building there? MARK LEE – With the impending winter I’m thinking that it’s going to be ready for development in the spring and then what I do I present an approval package in the sense of what a development package to my construction division and then they schedule it in their schedule. Sometimes it happens the week that I send them it they’ll have a slot they’ll have the people to be able to do it right of way and sometimes there is a lag depending upon how busy they are at any particular construction season. So but I am, we are anticipating breaking ground next year ’07. COUNCILMAN MAIER – Okay, I have a follow up question. With that what, how many jobs you considering that you’ll be bringing in and what kind of jobs they be minimum wage or up from that? MARK LEE – I don’t believe that anyone that works at Menards makes minimum wage, but I honestly don’t have those statistics and as a private company I know that we that it’s you know that we don’t collect and disseminate that information publicly, it’s I know there’s a tremendous amount of upward mobility in the company and that even the most junior position there is one that could turn into a lucrative management type job. Because we promote from within our managers are all people that started off you know stocking shelves and learning the company in that’s how we promote. We’re not sending head hunters out there to steal away anybody else’s managers. We’re training our own so it’s about a upwards 150 people just for our use. Then of course, this will stimulate other growth on this and adjacent properties which will no doubt create additional jobs. ROBIN WARSTLER – With Providence Development Corp. I live at 5126 Birckdale Street in Canton. We are here tonight with a final plat for Concord Village which is a residential development off of Hankins Road. We’re asking that I talked to Perry Stergios and Ron Mang both and the Mayor about possibly not having to have three readings. We’d like to get it approved tonight if possible so we can get try to move forward with pavement and curb and gutter yet this season. COUNCILMAN BRYAN I have a question Mr. Warstler. How late into the winter can you pour concrete, gutter and that? ROBIN WARSTLER – The asphalt plants will close when the weather comes to cold to keep it up and that’s typically sometime in late November it can go into early December it might be early November. It just depends on the weather. 6. INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER Mr. Mang, you have a request? COUNCILMAN MANG – Yes, I’d like to amend the agenda to bring Ordinance No. 120 – 2006 as the first item on the agenda. COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER Is there any objection to bring that ordinance forward? If not the Clerk please read the title to Ordinance No. 120. ORDINANCE NO. 120 2006 BY: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE COUNCILMAN MANG – You did hear the presentation by the gentleman from Menard. We’ve also discussed this before in council. But just so there’s no doubt in anyone’s mind we’re talking about Out Lot 581, Out Lot 580 is presently rezoned to B-3 general business and that was done in the year 2003. What we’re dealing with tonight is Out Lot 581 which will they would like have it B-3 general business and that way both Out Lot 580 and 581 would be in compliance. COUNCILMAN MANG moved for passage, seconded by Councilman McCune. ORDINANCE NO. 120 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. ORDINANCE NO. 154 2006 BY: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE COUNCILMAN MANG – We heard the presentation by the developer Robin Warstler. His intent is to once we get this we have action on this ordinance if it is passed he would be able to proceed with getting the streets put into the development. He would like to see this happen prior to the winter months. We’ve had no objections whatsoever and I think most of the people in the immediate area would be happy to see this development take place. COUNCILMAN MANG moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Townsend. The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes. ORDINANCE NO. 154 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. ORDINANCE NO. 155 2006 BY: ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE COUNCILMAN MANSON – Yes, we discussed this at last week’s committee session. This is to test for heavy metal in our water and I think its done on a monthly basis. Presently, there’s a company called Gensko Labitory that is performing this for the city. They’re anticipating as many as 6 bids. COUNCILMAN MANSON moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilwoman Ferrero. The rules were passed by a roll call vote of 9 yes. ORDINANCE NO. 155 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. ORDINANCE NO. 156 2006 BY: RULES, COURTS & CIVIL SERVICE COMMITTEE COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND We discussed Ordinance No. 156 last week at the work session. We do have a contract in hand. If anyone has any questions I can request that Mr. Loudiana come up and answer those. COUNCILMAN MANG – Mr. Loudiana, question I see that the wages are effective April 1, 2006 is our budget at present… SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA – The first year is 0% increase, the second year is 4 and the third year is 4. I’m sorry you’re talking about Wastewater, we’re talking about Wastewater. The first year in Wastewater is 2% and the reason for that is that we eliminated the comp time and we basically bought them out of their comp time for 2%. COUNCILMAN MANG – My questions was is in our budget do we have this 2%? SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA – Yes, the 2% is really the comp time we’re just going to pay out all the comp time. COUNCILMAN MAIER – Yes, when the Clerk read the ordinance she read 157 as far as the street department, traffic and safety and I was wondering if that’s the correct one? SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA – Well, I’m getting confused myself now, I thought we were on… COUNCILMAN MAIER – Yeah, we’re on 156, but I believe she said street department, traffic, safety and parks and we’re on 156. SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA – Right, and I was answering Mr. Mang as 157 which is Wastewater Treatment. COUNCILMAN MAIER – So, which we’re on 156? The section 1 was read from 157 when she read that and that’s… COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER The Clerk read the correct title, Mr. Bryan? COUNCILMAN BRYAN I believe the Clerk read a title concerning the parks and street department which is the way it reads on the agenda, but if you look at the actual ordinance it’s the Wastewater Treatment Plant that’s 156. So there’s an error on the agenda. COUNCILMAN MAIER – That’s what I was questioning. COUNCILMAN BRYAN I think that the title is going to have to be re-read. COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER Let’s hold up just a moment here. Alright, Ordinance No. 156 has to do with AFSCME Council 8 covering the street department, garage, traffic, safety and parks department and the contract is… COUNCILMAN BRYAN Can I move for a 5 minutes recess? COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER I think that’s a good idea, we are in recess for 5 minutes. Okay, we’re back in session here we had a mix up on the language regarding the title on Ordinance No. 156 in so far as we had no motion anything like I’m going to instruct the Clerk to re-read the title to Ordinance No. 156 and if we have no complaints we’ll move forward with discussion on Ordinance No. 156. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND I do believe Councilman Mang was asking a question. COUNCILMAN MANG – My question is in regard to the wages that were to be affective April 1; my question is does the budget have as it is today have enough money to cover that 2% increase? That’s my question to Mr. Loudiana? SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA – Wastewater Treatment, yes, we do that money is already in their budget it’s part of their overtime or comp time. What we’re doing is rather than have them take the comp time we’re paying them out; we’re going to start next year with no comp time. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY On our agenda, I don’t know if you noticed this, but these are not coinciding 156 on our agenda says the street department. COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER Agreed. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY Are we correcting that? COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER We’re going with if you look at your ordinance sheet the ordinance sheet is the operative document that’s the title that the Clerk read and Mr. Townsend agrees is before us for consideration. Regardless of what the agenda says… COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY Should we not fix the agenda? COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER No, would you read the title again, Madame Clerk for Ordinance No. 156. All of you don’t look at your agenda sheet look at the actual ordinance and follow along on the ordinance. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY I understand that, but as this is also a legal document it is incorrect and I was just asking as point of order if we should correct it. COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER Okay, and I’m saying we’re just treating it as a miscommunication on the agenda we’ve read into the record the appropriate ordinance and the appropriate title. The chairman has verified that that’s what we’re discussing. That’s my ruling. COUNCILMAN BRYAN Getting back to the contract with Wastewater Treatment, Mike, could you just highlight I talked to you earlier and there’s really only two or three changes from the previous contract right? Could you highlight what you think the changes in this contract? SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA – Yes, the changes are one the wages which were except for the first year are the same as everybody else four and four. The hospitalization area the max amount out of pocket is $750.00 instead of $500.00. The prescription drugs went from $8.00 to $10.00 for regular drugs, $15.00 to $20.00 for formulary drugs and $35.00 for non-formulary drugs. Those are the contributions, there are several other just housekeeping things that we did I can go through the whole contract if anybody wants to. But that’s the monetary changes that we made. COUNCILMAN BRYAN The comp time that you mentioned if they work overtime from now on in that department just dealing with Wastewater Treatment department. They’re not going to get comp time they’re going to get overtime. They’re going to get paid for it not and you feel that’s a better system than the current one? SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA –Yes, the old system cost us probably $40,000.00 or $50,000.00 a year. Because when somebody takes comp time then somebody has to make that up it just snowballs. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Mang. The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes. ORDINANCE NO. 156 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER As the Clerk reads the title for 157 please follow along on the ordinance itself rather than on the agenda sheet. ORDINANCE NO. 157 2006 BY: RULES, COURTS & CIVIL SERVICE COMMITTEE COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND This is one of two that we discussed last week. We do have the contract and I believe Mr. Loudiana did speak a little bit about early on in our discussion. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY Mr. Loudiana, since we had some confusion with the last ordinance can you talk about the increases in the first, second and third year? SAFETY SERVICE DIRECTOR LOUDIANA – Right, the first year is 0, the second year is 4 and the third year is 4. The prescription drugs are going to be the same as everyone it’s going to be $10.00, $20.00, $35.00. One new thing we have on this contract is we’re able to negotiate change in the hours for one individual so that we can keep the recycle doors open until 6:00pm. So once we get this signed we’ll be able to have someone till 6:00 in the evening they can drop off their leaves and their recyclables. COUNCILMAN BRYAN Mike, that’s a really good thing because I know a lot of people you know like myself we work till 5:00pm and you just can’t get over there with you recyclables. So I’m sure you’ll get a notice in the paper about that too, because I think more people will bring their stuff to our site if they come after work. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilwoman Ferrero. The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes. ORDINANCE NO. 157 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER And following up Mrs. Catazaro-Perry’s comment I have instructed the Clerk to prepare a new agenda sheet that matches our official business. I sign all the official minutes when we put them in our big book so I will make sure that that is done correctly. ORDINANCE NO. 158 2006 BY: FINANCE COMMITTEE COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY Ordinance No. 158 has four sections. Section 1 is to pay the interest on the Lincoln Center Debt Fund it’s $22,225.00 we’re going to appropriate that into phase 3 interest. Section 2, is to appropriate from the unappropriated balance of solid waste $20,000.00 for the administrative expense. We’re going to appropriate that into that account and that is just a fee for the year for that department. Section 3, we’d like to appropriate from the General Fund for the year ending this year 2006 $150,000.00 into an account entitled fire salary. In section 4, we’d just like to have this done today. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Bryan. The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes. ORDINANCE NO. 158 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 8 YES. ORDINANCE NO. 159 2006 BY: FINANCE COMMITTEE COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY Ordinance No. 159 is rather extensive so bare with me with all the from’s and to’s. We’d like to transfer from within the General Fund from Hospital, Eye, Dental, Life $60,000.00, Real Property Tax $6,602.50 and State Examination $11,153.09 like to send that to the Police Salary $56,400.00, Janitor – Hospital, Eye, Dental, Life $4,100.00, Police Salary $11,153.09 and to Police Salary $6,602.50. Then from Hospital, Eye and Dental $15,550.00 over to Disability and Pension $15,550.00. From the Deputy Auditor salary $5,938.00, the Law Director Staff Salary $5,012.00, Council Salary $326.00 and Law Director OPERS $600.00 to Hospital, Eye, Dental $5,000.00, Law Director PERS $654.00, Street Lighting $4,346.00. Also from Income Tax PERS $3,810.95, Auditor PERS $2,833.00 and Mayor PERS $4,000.00 to the following accounts Disability and Pension transfer $3,810.95, Street Lighting $2,833.00 and Street Lighting $4,000.00 COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Bryan. The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes. ORDINANCE NO. 159 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. RESOLUTION NO. 21 2006 BY: FINANCE COMMITTEE COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY This we do on a yearly basis and we have to certify these to the auditor. The amounts that I have is General Fund $1,333,478.00, the county auditor’s estimate of tax rate to be levied is 9.70. The fireman’s pension $150,402 and that rate is 0.30. Police pension $150,402 that rate is also 0.30 and the museum $277,338 and that is an outside levy and that 1.00 and the museum I just read that as well that was the same $277,338 1.00. This is just to be certified by all members of council to the auditor the county auditor. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman Peters. The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes. RESOLUTION NO. 21 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. 7. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - NOTHING 8. PETITIONS AND GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS - NOTHING 9. BILLS, ACCOUNTS AND CLAIMS 1. INDEPENDENT - $82.55 COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY I move that we pay the bill, seconded by Councilman Peters. Roll call vote of 9 yes to pay the bills. 10. REPORTS FROM CITY OFFICIALS A). POLICE CHIEF SUBMITS MONTHLY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 2006. COPY FILE 11. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES COUNCIL PRESIDENT GAMBER As far as committee meeting we will be skipping next Monday as it’s the 4th of 5 we will meet again on October 30th. I also have notification from the Clerk that she will be taking next week off just so you know. 12. RESOLUTIONS AND REQUESTS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY I would like to publicly thank Mr. Peters for attending my ward council meeting I was on vacation at the time and I did not get to publicly thank him. So thank you Donnie Peters. COUNCILMAN PETERS You’re welcome. It was a tough meeting to handle, but we did it. 13. CALL OF THE CALENDAR 14. THIRD READING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS .SECOND READING ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS ORDINANCE NO. 146 2006 BY: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE COUNCILMAN MANG – The original ordinance for the CDBG funds it specified we’d have $45,000.00 that would be in the code enforcement. The Mayor believes that we need to hire additional officer for the remaining 9 months. He feels that there’s an awful lot of things in the community that he feels that we need to pay attention to especially vacated structures and the rental properties. The amount of work is more than what the one individual can do at this point. So he’s asking to put another one on staff this additional $30,000.00 would cover the remaining nine months of the CDBG program. Any questions regarding this? COUNCILMAN MCCUNE – Yes, if the Mayor could come to the front please. Mr. Mayor, I just have a couple of concerns I guess. Several times we’ve had Mr. Saracena for different reasons in here and he’s talked on number of occasions about this job being a complaint driven position. I was wondering how we were going to divvy up the jobs so that maybe we can be a little more proactive rather than complaint driven. MAYOR CICCHINELLI – Well, I can’t I mean I wasn’t this was at a work session he said this? (I believe so, yeah.) I did not attend that work session I mean… COUNCILMAN MCCUNE – No, it was on several times over the past few weeks. MAYOR CICCHINELLI – Well, I think that is true a lot of times Mr. McCune we will have complaints lodged into the department concerning a specific house or the condition of a house or something that maybe a neighbor feels violates the our codes. So yes, sometimes it is driven by those requests, but I also think that with a new position there are other things that we can become more aggressive and that is making sure that our neighborhoods are preserved even more so than what they are. So with two people on staff I mean yes, he will get into the specific code enforcement area. I think we can also with some of the other legislation that you’re considering now and maybe some in the future that work will also have to be done. But it’s probably accurate to say that some of the work is initiated by complaints. But it’s that nature of the beast as far as code enforcement or as far as that’s part of the work. COUNCILMAN MCCUNE – So how do you, what do you see this new person’s responsibilities where they fall within the department are we going to put him out looking specifically at foreclosures? MAYOR CICCHINELLI – I think we’re going to have a little latitude as far as making sure that the department has some leeway here and some input as to what exactly what he’s going to do. But why we’re calling it a code enforcement officer is because that’s exactly what he or she is going to do. That’s the area that we want the additional work in. I explained it at the last council meeting that the reason for that we have to stay on top on these of some of the homes and making sure that these homes are reflect what our codes say, our present codes say. That’s the city of this size should have at least two really, really we should. But for budget constraints in the past we decided to work with one, so I figured these dollars coming available as they are this is the time to do it. So it’s going to be code enforcement, but as you do know we’re experiencing some upgrading in that department as we speak with computers and things like that. So I think there’s some opportunities there and we’re doing some things there in that department right now which I think can will go well for the future. COUNCILMAN MCCUNE – I want to be honest I had some reservations about it, but during a conversation I found that this department at one time was manned with an additional 2.5 people beyond what you’re going to have after the hiring of this guy or person whomever it may be. MAYOR CICCHINELLI – There were more personnel within the department, but actually in this case we’re having less people, but I think that we can get the job done with what we’re requesting now. COUNCILMAN MCCUNE – I guess the bottom line is I would like to see it become less complaint driven where it’s Amos going after Andy or whatever where we’re actually doing the job that these people are hired to do. MAYOR CICCHINELLI – Well, I don’t think you’re ever going to get away from that Councilman McCune. Because it’s just the nature of the beast, but I do think we see some violations and Mike’s now trained enough that if he sees violations himself. So it’s not the same thing as a citizen or a property owner telling on someone else and you’re never going to stop some of that. But I don’t and what context he used that language all I’ll tell you is you have a lot of times because of what we’re talking about and that’s code enforcement you’re going to get a complaint from someone, but a lot of times if it’s conditions on the inside we really won’t know. So that’s why it’s important to get enough staff to do the work and really I’m glad that you changed your mind because we really need to stay on top of it. Its sort of we’re actually doing something ahead of the curve and that’s what I told you the last time by doing it now. It’s not after the fact so we want to make sure and he’s I think again he knows that if he sees some violations on the outside of a property then he’s on it right away with another person it will only make it I think more efficient. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY I was just wondering Mr. Mayor, what his salary would be for the full year. So if we hire him this year it would be $30,000.00 and then for the remaining nine months what would you project his salary to be next year? MAYOR CICCHINELLI – Mrs. Catazaro-Perry, keep in mind that the CDBG budget is not on a calendar year it’s on a fiscal year it’s nine months only because it goes through June until the new monies come in next summer which would be the ’07 dollars. The salary is approximately $30,000.00 it’s a little less than $30,000.00 actually, but with benefits its higher than that there’s money in the appropriate accounts to take care of that. But the nine months only reflect what the fiscal year that the CDBG budget the personnel is paid out of there are actually classified under. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY So then next year his salary will remain at $30,000.00 for that fiscal year? MAYOR CICCHINELLI – No, because they’ll have a raise a 4% raise. COUNCILMAN BRYAN – Back to that point, if I’m understanding what we got right it was $30,000.00 for nine months so wouldn’t it be $40,000.00 for 12 months? MAYOR CICCHINELLI – No, its $30,000.00 for the entire year, but its only we can only the monies we’re talking about is only in the budget until this budget yeah and then the new budget comes in so there’ll be additional dollars. COUNCILMAN BRYAN – But you’re planning on keeping this person after June, you wouldn’t hire somebody and get rid them in June. So but what I’m assuming here is that its going to be $40,000.00 beginning in the next CDBG fiscal year which begins in July. I don’t know you’re saying that’s not what it is. MAYOR CICCHINELLI – The salary is approximately $30,000.00. (On a yearly basis?) Yes, sir COUNCILMAN BRYAN – And then the PERS and the health insurance all that’s going to come out of the administration part of the budget? MAYOR CICCHINELLI – Yes, sir. COUNCILMAN BRYAN – The other question I have is whenever you’ve answered the question about do we need this person you’ve always used language like we’re going to stay ahead of this. You’ve talked about if council passes additional things and that makes me think maybe we don’t need this person right now. Do you if council doesn’t pass any additional codes and things don’t get worse do we still need this person? MAYOR CICCHINELLI – Absolutely, all I’m telling you is that I want some flexibility within the position there will be some flexibility on what this person can do. The code enforcement is a lot of things and I think that we want some flexibility there, but primarily all we’re talking about now is Mike needs some help and again we want to stay on top of it and because of the influx of some housing units that are up for sheriff sale and could for an extended period of time remain vacant. We want to be on top of that because that it’s important to our neighborhoods as you all know. It’s interesting it’s not only happening in older neighborhoods and I don’t want people in this community and this council to panic it’s not in a panic situation, but there’s been a large amount of bankruptcies in Ohio in the last couple of years. Massillon reflects that and so does every other community in Stark County reflect that. Again, some of these housing units are in new neighborhoods. So it’s not all the older neighborhoods, so again you have to stay on top of it and that’s what I meant by staying on top of the curve to make sure that and a lot of cases a lot of these homes are put up for sheriff sale and sold and a family moves in it. But in some cases that may not be the case we want to stay on top it. So there’s plenty of work. COUNCILMAN MANSON – Yes, can this person be used to do just regular inspections like as far as building permits that are applied for? MAYOR CICCHINELLI – Inspections, you have to be careful they have to be certified and licensed for certain inspections by the Ohio State Board so depending on what this person would do he or she may not be able to make inspections unless they go to school get the necessary education and license and/or degree whatever you’re talking about and then becomes qualified to be possibly moved up or kept at the same level but given other responsibilities. There’s a lot of alternatives, hopefully the person we hire is successful and does a great job here and then possibly we can move this person up gradually or give him other responsibilities. But I think that’s happened in the past what we’ve hired people and they’ve stayed in that department and moved up and do other things. But you have to be careful when you give inspections now writing permits I think again, they can’t review but they could possibly actually do the writing of the permit. I mean so, but that’s internal within that department and I’m sure that Bill will do what’s best for the department. COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY I have one more question, Mayor. I was wondering if you anticipate the total that we had this year funding available with $700,000.00 do you anticipate that to decrease next year, stay the same? I’m not going to say increase because we all know that’s not going to happen. MAYOR CICCHINELLI – They are talking and this is purely talk right now in Washington and of course, as all of you know November is an election. So there’s a lot of variables that no one can predict what will happen but they’re talking about cutting CDBG again, but I do believe that the CDBG program is really the only program left for communities. There’s a difference in philosophies and some parts of the administration and parts of congress is to what they should do. Will it be cut it could possibly be cut to give you a percentage would be ridiculous because I don’t make that decision. We think it might be cut, but then again it depends on what happens in November. It might be increased because you have to understand these dollars go in to serve citizens of our communities and it’s a viable program it’s really helped our city out and it certainly helps larger cities than Massillon out. One thing that we have done we are revenues increasing as far as program income and those dollars are put back into CDBG budget. For example, we just opened up last week we sold three lots on Walnut Road which used to be site of the youth center we got $10,000.00 per lot. Those dollars go back into our CDBG budget and will be recycled in program income from some programs. So yes, dollars will come in, but we anticipating as of right now we anticipate a cut what that percentage is no one can guess. COUNCILMAN MANG moved for suspension of the rules and passage, seconded by Councilman McCune. The rules were suspended by a roll call vote of 9 yes. ORDINANCE NO. 146 – 2006 WAS PASSED BY A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 9 YES. ORDINANCE NO. 153 2006 BY: FINANCE COMMITTEE COUNCILWOMAN CATAZARO-PERRY Second reading. ORDINANCE NO. 153 – 2006 WAS GIVEN SECOND READING. 16. NEW AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS .REMARKS OF DELEGATIONS AND CITIZENS TO MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA CAMILLE LESLIE – I’m the director of the Massillon Public Library. I live at 1310 Beechtree Circle NE, Massillon. I’m here because I wanted to be able to speak to you all because I know so many people talk to you throughout the week. I just wanted to take a minute or two to give you the structure of the issue that will be on the ballot in November for the library. The library has a 1.9 mill operating levy on the ballot in November. People who will be voting on this issue are residents of the school district of Massillon and the Villages of Brewster and Navarre, because that’s the library’s official service area. Interesting enough though many people outside of that area use our library and many people in our service area use other libraries in the county. The state has set that as our service area so not all of the City of Massillon will be voting on this. About 1/3 of the City of Massillon will not vote on this. The issue will do several things for the library it will enable us to develop our collection much stronger we now spend about 12% of our operating budget on our collections which is books, music and movies. The ideal library world is 20% and the levy will enable us to spend about 18% of our operating money on those things to serve the public better. It will enable us to build a computer room we have an upstairs room in the library that’s often used for meetings and that room will be outfitted as computer lab. We will get our public access computers out of our children’s department and our reference department and have them in an area dedicated to public computer use. We will stop charging 50 cents per rental on movies that go out on DVD or video. We’re the only library right now that does that, that brings in about $25,000.00 to our budget, but if the levy passes we will not have to do that anymore. We also are very fortunate right to be able to be working with Congressman Regula who obtained a federal grant for us to build for the Y excuse me the officially YMCA in Navarre is building a 3,000 square foot space adjacent to their new facility and that will be the library. The library formerly or presently and since 1930, even mid 1930’s has been in the school building in Navarre. That same situation has been in true in Brewster and as you know the Fairless School District passed an issue and they are consolidating all three of their elementary schools and our branch in Brewster will be in the new Brewster Elementary School. We’re going to have some evening hours at both of those branches and some weekend hours we’ve never had that before. We’ve only been open Monday thru Friday and mostly matched our hours with the school’s hours and then in the summer we were only opened half a day Monday thru Friday. So the hours at the Navarre branch will be longer the hours at the Brewster branch will also be longer, but probably not quite as long as at the Navarre branch. We’ll continue to maintain the main library and use our bookmobile and we feel that this money would really enable us to do a lot more our state funding is shrinking. We know that this money will generate about $838,000.00 a year for 5 years and then if you are the owner of a house that is assessed at $100,000.00 you will pay probably about $58.00 a year, $50,000.00 assessment you would pay about $29.00 a year. I have some business cards here if anyone would like to if you have any questions you can’t answer I’d be glad to speak with anyone that you would like to have call me or if you have any questions this evening and if there’s time I’d be glad to answer them. Thank you for your time this evening. KEN JOSEPH – Of the Emergency Medical Transport, 1118 Main Avenue in Massillon. There were some numbers that were thrown out to council about 7 days ago I was able to go through and get them cleaned up and get them accurate now. It was eluded to at the our last get together I guess the work session that 63 times we were unable to respond when requested that is way off the mark. I’m not sure how the list was put together, but I actually went through each item I did that evening I was up till about 1:00am straightening this out because I knew it wasn’t right. The true number to that is 28 times in 6 months, it wasn’t 28 times that we couldn’t respond it was 28 times that we didn’t if we had a unit that was going to take more than 5 minutes to get to a scene maybe at Doctor’s Hospital on its way back from another hospital we wouldn’t take that call. It’s customary for a private ambulance to do that, but promises made to the city and promises made to the fire department that we weren’t going to take everything we were going to be fair with it so that if there was another unit closer even it was ours that it would be given to them. So the true number to that and again it is not that we couldn’t have responded to these are that we didn’t were 28. I’d say the majority of those we had a unit available just not within acceptable standards or acceptable standards of our on this end. It was also eluded to that a standard has been kept there’s been one unable by or over the last many years. This year since just since us being included in Massillon fire calls in April we’ve been on the east side of town 18 times I haven’t been able to hammer those all down to make sure that they were all times that the other service wasn’t available or if those are possibly some private calls that came into us its hard for me disseminate that information. We’re probably going to do 30,000 ambulance calls well ambulance to transport calls this year company wide. So the data there’s a lot of data I went through a lot of reports, but I do know for a fact that we’ve been on 18 calls on the east side of town just in that same period. I do know guaranteed for sure 4 of those were at the request of the fire department. Actually, one of them was right after our last get together that was the 10th on an accident on Lake. So I wanted to get accurate and correct I’ll stand behind this data it is right I made sure it was right before I was going to bring it out. I’m not saying that the others were put in there to look bad or I don’t know where the numbers came from that they had gotten, but there’s a lot of things there’s addresses on this list that don’t even exist one of them is right where 241 and 17th Street come together if there was a house in that intersection that’s where it would be. I think it was a transposure from a northeast call because there was one right about the same time. I don’t want to go through and worry you because I actually got an explanation of every single one of these and what we feel happened. But I will stand on the number of 28 and again the majority of those we could have probably responded an ambulance to we just didn’t feel the response time was going to be appropriate it wasn’t as promised and we have stayed 100% to what we promised the city we’ve not used our units for the city for other things we’ve turned those calls down transport and things like that. So I wanted to that out there because it was actually reported here and then it got picked up in the newspaper as well and it did look bad. I wanted to clear the air on that I don’t know if there’s any ill intent when that was put out, but it isn’t correct these numbers are. 18. ADJOURNMENT COUNCILMAN PETERS I move that we adjourn, seconded by all.
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